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Soul Survivors Secrets some things you're really not supposed to know
this page was started March 18, 2008 it was private for a long time updated May, 2012 |
I received three webpages in an email. They are a complete newspaper article, written on January 2, 1991. The article is about half a page long. The advertisements are about two and a half pages. The author, Mr. Joe Logan, is a staff writer for the Philadelphia Inquirer. He writes very well. If you want to see the original webpages, this is the zipfile.
There are some factual errors in the article, which I will rebut and comment below. I only rebut part of the article. The rest was deleted.
To keep things clear:
Mr. Logan's text is MAROON Richard and Charlie Ingui's text is RED My rebuttal and comments are BLUE
Anything ITALIC, UNDERLINED, BOLD, or HIGHLIGHTED was done by me. It's not part of the original article. The video links referred to below are on YouTube. FAIRYTALE is a polite word for BULLSHIT. |
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Still Surviving
Fame Was Fleeting For
Charlie And Richie Ingui, Who Hit It Big
In 1967 With "Expressway To Your Heart."
Have you ever heard "Drivin' My Life Away"? It's by Eddie Rabbitt, Billboard #1 (Country), Billboard #5 (Top 100), certified gold record. It's a great song.
"We want to get back to touring, back on the road. With a record, we can do that."
It looks like what they WANT isn't what they GOT. It looks like they're not going to GET it, either. Look at a calendar. What year is it?
Have you ever heard "On The Road Again"? It's by Willie Nelson, Billboard #1 (Country), Billboard #20 (Top 100), Grammy award. It's a great song.
And so, more than 23 years after they hit the big time with their smash ''Expressway to Your Heart," the Soul Survivors - brothers Charlie and Richie Ingui - are struggling to make a comeback.
Mr. Logan's article was originally written in 1991, but I don't know when it went online. We could check back again in 2011. What's 20, 30, or 40 years? Or 50 or 60?
The "struggle" has been going on since "Expressway". We're talking about decades, and the "struggle" isn't over. They've been slamming their heads against a wall since 1967.
Sooner or later the wall HAS to cave in. Doesn't it?
Richard and Charlie have been chronic losers for 41 years. But their next hit record is right around the corner! Right? Right!
Have you ever heard "The Gambler"? It's by Kenny Rogers, Billboard #1 (Country), Billboard #16 (Top 100), Grammy award. It's a great song. Some of the words are: "You got to know when to hold 'em - know when to fold 'em. Know when to walk away - know when to run."
It looks like the Inguis haven't figured any of that out yet. I predict when the Soul Survivors make a "comeback", there won't be any "BACK" to "COME" to.
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So would about 15 MILLION other singers, musicians, and bands.
Being "a house painter" and "an occasional landscaper" sure sounds like a lot of fun.
But what makes them think it will happen?
It could be stupidity, paint fumes, a magic landscape tool, or maybe they believe in FAIRYTALES.
They've tried and failed before - several times, in fact.
That should tell the author, Mr. Logan, quite a bit about the Soul Survivors.
Have you ever heard "Eastbound And Down"? It's by Jerry Reed, Billboard #2 (Country). It's a great song. Some of the words are: "We got a LONG WAY TO GO - and a SHORT TIME TO GET THERE".
And WE know they've proven they can't.
"We never really peaked, and our music never really peaked," says Richie.
The Inguis must have a grossly inflated delusion of their "peak" value in the music world.
Maybe it's "aging", like fine wine. For example, Mad Dog 20/20 - about $4.29 - the favorite of all winos! James Bond - Secret Agent 007 - was fixated on 1947 Chateau Mouton-Rothschild. Obviously, fine wine must be a good thing. Surely, James Bond wouldn't jive us.
''We've continued to write songs and we have a wealth of contemporary stuff."
Welcome to another Ingui FAIRYTALE. We have a little discrepancy here. Richard and Charlie claim they "write songs".
They don't play instruments
Can they write lyrics and some melodies? Yes, of course - anybody can do that. But what about the music? Somebody has to co-write with them - somebody has to come up with the chord progression - which is the foundation of every song.
I've received emails - from musicians - stating they wrote the chords for the Inguis on several songs. Then Richard and Charlie claimed 100% writer credit. That's a hell of a way to treat somebody that's trying to help you get ahead. That's a hell of a way to USE people.
I don't believe the Inguis have ever "written" anything marketable. I don't believe the Inguis have ever "written" anything THEMSELVES, without the HELP of a playing musician.
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"Acceptance"? You GOT your "acceptance" - just watch the video linked above. What a CROWD! There might be almost 50 people there - families, neighbors, kids under 12 years old - plus Alfonso, from the pizza place! (Alfonso left in about 2 minutes - he had to go make pizza deliveries.)
My neighbor's band drew bigger crowds - when they rehearsed in his garage.
Charlie and Richard are repeatedly singing out-of-key. There's no question - they've deteriorated acutely since 1969. But - don't overlook their heart-stopping, thrilling, breathtaking boxing, karate, and martial arts moves - that's known as REAL "showmanship"! For all I know, they might be having "soul seizures". Maybe that explains it. They could change the name of their "band" to "The Soul Seizures" - undeniably a great idea.
Don't miss Charlie falling on his knees Baby, that's when the SOUL REALLY KICKED IN ● It just knocked him to his Goddamn knees!
The Soul Survivors "band" is a COMEDY. Totally disorganized. No musical leadership. No arrangements. After a lifetime (forty plus (40+) years) as a real player, leader, session musician, and arranger, I know what I'm talking about. If you have any doubts, go watch my videos and listen to my mp3s.
If they "rehearsed" at all, I feel sure Richard "ran rehearsals". He had to be IN CONTROL - just like 1968-1969.
The video proves Richard is not mentally capable of putting music together. He doesn't have musical knowledge, arrangement creativity, or ability. He'd do better trying to drive a lawnmower across the Pacific Ocean.
How they could wreck a song like "Mustang Sally" is beyond comprehension. Typically, it should be a very funky song. But not with this COMEDY "band".
My name for them is U&TT .... that's Unskilled & Timeless Tuneless. (It's a takeoff on I&TT.) Whatever they are, they're not real players. I almost feel sorry for the "drummer". He has two arms. I believe if he only had ONE arm, he'd still overplay. The "guitar player" can't even play in key - and he LAUGHS while he's fucking up! The very last thing he needs is a guitar in his hands. Somebody should have given him a shovel, or a broom, or something. The horns aren't worth listening to, but they pretty much mind their business. That ends when the "trumpet player" has some convulsions on the floor, and does his "afternoon aerobics" moves. If the trombone player gets away from the Inguis fast enough, he could be a real player one day. The "keyboard player" has a fake Hammond (an XB-2, which is a synthesizer), no Leslies, and a Korg synthesizer. I wouldn't own either one if somebody paid me $100.00 just to take them away. Why expect anything different? The "keyboard player" isn't a real player either. The exception is the bass player, who is pretty much "on" almost all the time. With all that bullshit "music" happening around him, I've got to give him some credit. Maybe "the band" could paint houses or do occasional landscaping. They'd get a lot dirtier, but they'd get more accomplished.
If anybody actually paid for for the COMEDY "entertainment", somebody was Goddamn robbed. Camden, NJ made a mistake. They should have had Richard paint the "stage/trailer".
The video speaks for itself - watch it and see. Personally, I couldn't do it. I couldn't force myself to play in a "band" like that. The COMEDY video proves a point: the Inguis should have quit - back in 1969.
I think the Inguis are both ready for wheelchairs. (see █ below)
"We didn't get rich, even
in the height of it,"
Charlie says of the glory days.
"We didn't pay attention
to the money. We were young, we trusted people, we figured
it would be there for us at the end." It wasn't. To get their money, they eventually ended up in U.S. District Court, where on Dec. 21 the group was awarded $51,164 in royalties from Collectables Inc. of Ardmore, which owns the rights to masters of the group's old records.
I wonder how much of that money ended up in the Ingui's pockets after all the collection and legal costs.
(The Inguis also have legal action pending against a group on the West Coast that has been performing under the name the Soul Survivors.)
The Inguis never bothered LEGALLY REGISTERING the name - THEY DON'T OWN IT. About 40 groups use it. According to Richard (in 2003), they still had "legal action pending" over the name. Anyone can register a copyright, patent, or trademark online. It costs about $99.00 to have a professional service DO IT ALL FOR you. Seriously - go research it.
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"We were white guys doing R&B music, and not too many guys could do that," says Charlie.
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I believe the author is either mistaken, or was intentionally misled by the Inguis. There's a difference between TOURING WITH and PLAYING ON THE SAME SHOW. The Soul Survivors played ONE - possibly TWO - shows with Janis Joplin .... were they ON TOUR together? When I worked with the Soul Survivors, we played on the same shows with plenty of HIT RECORD, NAME BANDS, but we weren't TOURING TOGETHER.
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No - I don't think that's factual. They did work through late May, 1969, when I walked out and went to STAX Records. I called Breakout Management several times, from Memphis, regarding MY musical equipment - ALL of which was in THEIR possession. (and I never saw ANY of it ever again) Phil and Audrey told me they were having big problems finding a Hammond organ player to replace me. (I changed the subject every time they "suggested" I come back to New York, and work with the Soul Survivors.)
but psychedelic music and hard rock were pushing bands like the Soul Survivors aside.
I disagree with this. I DO agree that hard rock and psychedelic music were on the rise, but there was still plenty of R&B market available. I also believe we could have worked for several more years - but we had a major problem. His name was Richard.
Frustrated by the failure of their debut album - due in part to poor promotion, they believe - they changed record labels.
No - I don't think they "changed record labels". I think what really happened, but I'm NOT an eyewitness to this, is ATCO (Atlantic) DUMPED the Soul Survivors. I think Richard's mouth caused it.
Then they lost their record deal entirely.
I'm pretty sure ATCO WAS the "record deal" referred to. I believe the author is either mistaken, or was intentionally misled by the Inguis.
Except for shows, Richard should have been gagged, and kept in a soundproof cage - with his "yes man puppet", Charlie. Are things like that illegal? If so, there should be some exceptions.
They also split with their manager.
I'm pretty sure Breakout Management - Phil and Audrey - DUMPED the Soul Survivors. Again, I'm NOT an eyewitness. I think what actually happened was Richard's mouth caused it.
They started really "going terminal" the day Richard sucker punched me in a hotel in Philadelphia, in December, 1968. (read it - and you can decide)
I walked out in May, 1969, and arrived at STAX Records in Memphis the next morning. I started recording at STAX the following day, and was hired (on a weekly staff salary plus session pay) almost instantly. (Within a few months, I was earning more than three times (3x) what I made with the Soul Survivors - and I was just getting started.)
Occasionally, I called one or two of the Soul Survivors. I heard plenty of stories, and I believed those stories. I ONLY believed because they were exact repeats of facts and experiences I'd already had. I never went near any of them again, since May, 1969.
By 1970, I was going UP in the music world.
I was living my dreams. MY fantasies were every-day realities.
Richard dragged the rest of them DOWN .... right back into the bars and dumps. Please stop for a minute .... THINK about this:
Why do I BELIEVE that ALL the BUSINESS PROBLEMS were ENTIRELY caused by Richard Ingui? During my 13-14 months with them, RICHARD NEVER SHUT HIS PSYCHO FUCKING MOUTH NO self-control, and less SENSE than a dead battery He never stopped CREATING CONFLICT
The logical answer is simple ....
KENNY DIDN'T CAUSE ANY BUSINESS PROBLEMS MANAGEMENT DIDN'T CAUSE ANY BUSINESS PROBLEMS - THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT FROM THE GROUP CHARLIE WASN'T MENTALLY CAPABLE OF CAUSING ANY BUSINESS PROBLEMS - HE WAS RICHARD'S "YES MAN PUPPET" THE ROADIES DIDN'T CAUSE ANY BUSINESS PROBLEMS - THEY LIVED ON POT AND WRECKED EQUIPMENT THE MUSICIANS DAMN SURE DIDN'T CAUSE ANY BUSINESS PROBLEMS - THEY JUST PLAYED WAY TOO BUSY AND SMOKED WAY TOO MUCH POT SO WHO CAUSED ALL THE BUSINESS PROBLEMS?
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I believed this in 1968, and I'll ALWAYS believe it
If Kenny Jeremiah was in charge, the group would have made unquestionable progress in the music business. In my opinion, Kenny, and ONLY Kenny, should have been the LEADER of the group, and the PUBLIC SPOKESMAN. I really believe everything would have worked out 100% better for everyone. Kenny - totally unlike psycho Richard - had leader qualities. He was calm, logical, and intelligent enough to think things over. Kenny was capable of a civilized discussion - anyone could reason sensibly with Kenny. Richard only knew about arguing, abuse, threats, screaming, and dissention. That's what he was born for. That was his purpose in life: create conflict. Richard didn't have any social skills. Kenny had more than enough for everyone.
That night, the Soul Survivors packed it in.
I believe their
continuous problems can be reduced to just two words: RICHARD'S MOUTH.
Keyboardist Paul Venturini (he was gone in early 1968) runs two restaurants in North Jersey, drummer Joe Forgione (he was gone in early 1968, and passed away in 2003) runs an auto body shop in New York and Jeremiah is in an Atlantic City band called Full House.
Kenny, to the best of my knowledge, has never stopped singing. I doubt he's ever been "a house painter" or "an occasional landscaper". His diplomatic personality has provided him with a living - a GOOD living - from music - that the Inguis can't even dream about.
The Inguis aren't sure about the others.
That's no surprise. When you treat people like shit, they stay far away from you.
Richard GODDAMN SURE
knew I was working at STAX, and playing/recording/engineering with Ike
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Five years? What happened with that "record deal"?
It didn't. Everything they've recorded since "Expressway" (1967) has sunk without a trace. They're LOSERS.
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END of my rebuttal/comment to Mr. Logan's 1991 newspaper article. |
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Time For Parody And Sarcasm |
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█ I think a change is long overdue. The article is from 1991, the video is from 1999, and they've got problems. The Inguis are playing around with buckets of Goddamn paint, brushes and rollers - fucking with dirt, shovels, and yard tools. How much "soul music" is in a can of paint? How much "soul music" can you dig up out of somebody's yard? They're OFF the expressway. They gotta get ON the expressway. They need to GET ROLLING. I think I know how they can do it.
These super-power wheelchairs are state
of the art. After some racing modifications, they've been clocked at
over 180 mph.
Charlie could get one color, Richard
could get another. Or they could get matching color schemes, and
really look like a "group".
Lots of accessories are
available: long-life power batteries, windshields, drink holders, food trays, headrests,
flat-free racing tires - and that's only the beginning.
I bet they could have custom
embroidery done on the backs .... "The No Survivors" .... or maybe "The Old Survivors" .... so they'd be
recognized nationwide!
Throw in some custom electronics
work, and they could have stereo equipment - including a PA system - built right
in.
They could even
get SUBWOOFERS, and everyone could hear them coming a mile away. They
could take their "music" "on the road again"!
Just imagine them .... cruising
down the breakdown lane on Interstate 95 at 90 mph, on their way to
the next "show" - safety lights flashing .... and arriving early.
That would leave plenty of time
for volunteers to set up ramps, so they could be winched onto the
stage.
Then they could charge their batteries - that's a
really important detail. Dead batteries are very serious.
But Charlie would have a little
problem: no more of this "falling down on his knees" shit, or he'd be
flopping around like a fish out of water.
Unless they had some
real custom work done, weather could present a little problem.
What happens in a hurricane? What about 16" of snow, or 20 below zero
cold?
Don't start making jokes like "The
Drowned Survivors" or "The Frozen Solid Survivors" - I've already
heard them.
With enough creative thinking - and enough
batteries - almost any problem could be solved.
But I saved the worst for last. I
don't think these chairs can be built with PORTA-POTTIES. Charlie
and Richard would really have an issue with that. They could plan "rest stops" long in advance, and hope they could make
it in time.
Actually, for their own safety, I'd suggest
Interstate rest stops only - there are armed security guards at them.
Once they got off the highway, they'd be in some real danger of
getting mugged and robbed, tossed out of their chairs, or
sucker punched.
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